Kill me, why don’t you kill me?? Am I not special enough to be killed, murdered. Killing is good and death is bad. The type of death I get will define what I had achieved in life. The worst form of death is the natural one. That means that you were not capable enough, even to find a way to die and nature or existence had to do the job for you. Still worse, of course, is the one by natural disasters/ man made disasters. It defines that nature thought of eliminating a whole bunch of nobody's and well I was one of them.
Suicide is of course far better than any of the above mentioned ways. At least I made sure that I cut nature’s work short and found a way of eliminating my own existence. Still a better category is that if I will be murdered. For I was important enough for someone or my death was, perhaps looked as a way for gaining profit and hence, before nature could get to me, they did. The best and probably the most high class (uptown) and satisfying death would then be assassination. Yes, doesn’t it feel great to hear it from someone that you were assassinated. A great feeling, isn’t it? Yes I would like to be assassinated and am sure most of you out there(whether you agree with me straight away or not) would love to be assassinated if given a choice.
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I have a friend who wants to be assasinated.
He wrote a short story of how he would be assasinated. it was so brilliant that as a friend I wish he dies that way. otherwise I m ready to assasinate him :)
totally...
assassinated... I'd love to...
it'd help though if i knew the time...
@twilight fairy
Let me know if you need any help...i kind of am plannin in getting a doctorate in that.
@ashtung
it'd help though if i knew the time...
So that you can enjoy the moment??
U mean to hint at this also in the first para..
" people in Africa are born to add to the death count "
I don't mean anything like that..... I am just being observative (which ofcourse is a personal thing and not a general one)....what you are trying to be is racial....which i am not....
so U hint that I am gettin general when I should be personalm why shud I be personal in the first place.,
correct me if I am wrong, U seem to talk abt the status of a person in a society decided by his/ her death..
in a sarcastic way yes......
I want a death which is Quick and fast..
not the one which is slow and for years will last..
I don care abt death ..honestly..don give a fuck..actually lookin forward to it.. the only thing is...shouldn come before time..
the World needs me right now..and will be needin me the most in the comin years...
clueless where art thou...the buddha guy needs your learnings.....
Weird! :D I'll do the honours if you want me to :D
P.S. I was going to put up a post a few months back asking how you (the reader) would like to die...dunno if it's relevant but just came to mind...
@No Good At Coding
only if it appeals the mind mate...only if it appeals the mind....
puppet:
mind is where the trouble is.!!
if U wanna pester the mind., silence is wat U want or need.
n channa: nobody needs U, stop living in that illusion..
HAHAHA, I had a good hearty laugh on first para.
a real dark topic, but you have made quite a fun of entire phenomenon. nice one :)
@chambilkethakur
Why dark?
dark because, often in civilized society talking about death glamorously is considered a no-no. And may be we being too exposed to everything(especially violent entertainment)has caused us to talk about it so casually. But talking about death is not a common talk because of obvious reasons of despair associated with it.
@chambilkethakur
No, thats not the answer I wanted. The question asked was....why dark?? why such a step-motherly treatment to darkness?? Isn't darkness natural and light unnatural?? Why then use it in such a negative manner?
ha ha, well i am not a racist or something.Neither am i too religious.(In fact i like dark things too much ;) )
But my perception is too general about death and hence i consider it dark.
And negativity or positivism are all matter of perception.
Ur question is too fundamental, its like questioning something like morality, of which no one is sure.
But it has been this way for as long as i remember or anyone whom i know remember.
@chambilkethakur
Morality and all acronyms are simply escapist words...... Words used by a group to outcast the individual....little knowing that group is because of lack of individualism....darkness needs nothing to survive....but light needs darkness to arrive......
1pupppet:
Morality and all acronyms are simply escapist words...... Words used by a group to outcast the individual....
little knowing that group is because of lack of individualism....darkness needs nothing to survive....but light needs darkness to arrive......
well said,but i guess we have read about the darkness vs light thing a lot, move on buddy..
see you on the dark side :p
2 chambilkethakur:
dark because, often in civilized society talking about death glamorously is considered a no-no. And may be we being too exposed to everything(especially violent entertainment)has caused us to talk about it so casually. But talking about death is not a common talk because of obvious reasons of despair associated with it.
did I read civilized., look around yourself, n tel me what do U mean by civilized.,
i have been looking for something similar since I understood the meaning of the word, it been over 15yrs, no luck as yet..
we r nothing but a bunch of crazy maniacs, civilized is something like heaven and hell., words whose meaning is known but existence is doubtful
did u read fountain head....?? yeah its related to ur blog....
Is it you ayn...I always thought that ayn was an abbreviation for something...didn't know it was anonymous...... Well I read Newton's mechanics...is that why gravity exists??
Existentialism and individualism have always been there....they existed before the fountainhead and they exist even now....you only realised because you read it somewhere...
Post Script For the record, no I have not read any of the Ayn Rand works......
man man man!!!!! I asked u such a simple question...and what an answer dude...btw...how come ur post is related to individualism and all ? ( not a simple one I guess)...and yeah one more thing...when the answer is simple ...god is answering...I hope u get it [:)]...NOT AYN
@Mis-spelt Mouse
The answer is so....why?? Because I want so....
How are my posts related to individualism.....i dunno...you should be telling me that, keeping in mind the fact that it was thy humble soul that brought the similarity between me and Ayn.....
And yeah God...who the fuck is he/she?
>>>>>>>>"did I read civilized., look around yourself, n tel me what do U mean by civilized.,
i have been looking for something similar since I understood the meaning of the word, it been over 15yrs, no luck as yet..
we r nothing but a bunch of crazy maniacs, civilized is something like heaven and hell., words whose meaning is known but existence is doubtful"
@ clueless,
dude, either you are too privileged or you are too thankless not to acknowledge civilization at all.
all this exercising your freedom of speech, living freely, and calling you self a maniac is all nothing but a consequence of civilization.
society do exist with all forms of problems and issues, but the very first link in all this is one-himself. current society is far from perfectly civilized, but that is because of us and no body else.
heaven and hell is not at all civilization, they are some hypothetic world created by poets. But the very society u exist, is a part of civilization, whether good or bad, is just matter of perception.
@Musty Muser
nice to know your are back
2 puppet:
U can welcome people else where.,this place is for serious talks.
2 chambil:
ur name is too long to be written everytime., n now dont tel me i can copy paste the same.,
if Ur thankful for the kind of life U lead, I need to know more of it.,
cuz I cant see anything.,
may be I am too big a pessimist
I read this somewhere
pessimist: knows life can't get worse
optimist : knows it mite..
civilization doesn exist in thought, it may exist in history.,
who knows.
freedom of speech is what U talk about,
what happens when an MF HUssain paints a picture to express something.,
he has to leave the country.,
n let me get U something from history too.
jesus christ: he is put on the cross by his own people., n ironically the same people become the founders of Christianity under his name., U call this civilized?
@Clueless
serious
Ahem?
i know da., jus for a change..
@clueless
>>>>what happens when an MF HUssain paints a picture to express something.,
he has to leave the country.,
when did that happen???? AFAIK, he never had to.
And trust me you will be good with painting goddess nude and for that matter some painting with mother india nude, but people wont be and that's not freedom of expression that's over exploitation of expression.
What do you think civilization is about? is it about painting nude paintings of goddesses or crucifying someone? or becoming follower of some sect? how u define civilization.
and yes you are surely pessimist if you don't acknowledge it.
do you think blaming politician or system or society as a whole will bring civilization.
And for long name my name is Anuz.
Anuz:
first Anuz, is this numerology or something?
And trust me you will be good with painting goddess nude and for that matter some painting with mother india nude, but people wont be and that's not freedom of expression that's over exploitation of expression.
are you agitated with what I said?
my point in referring to MF hussain or salman rushdie was not to get stuck on a particular example, it was simply to tell you, that what MF hussain does has nothing to do with other people.,
if U think he is not making proper use of his freedom of expression or for that matter misusing it, you can simply ignore him.
he does not own the goddesses neither does anyone else.
mythology and scriptures are not anybody's property., neither MF Hussain's nor yours.
What do you think civilization is about? is it about painting nude paintings of goddesses or crucifying someone? or becoming follower of some sect? how u define civilization.
1. easy to manage or control; well organized or ordered:
2. polite; well-bred; refined
civ·i·lize :
to bring out of a savage, uneducated, or rude state; make civil; elevate in social and private life; enlighten; refine
civilized to me means, a situation where in I am free to think and criticize as long as I dont harm anyone, if people have a problem with my criticism they can simply ignore me, rather than trying suppress.
suppression creates anxiety in other minds n hence the critic ends in gaining attention (which being his prime motive )
punks, also do the same: they color their hair, go bald, wear jewels, tattoo's n stuff, just to draw attention.
commenting or telling that they ae being stupid is simply falling for their trap., all they crave for is your attention, simply deprive them of the same.
and yes you are surely pessimist if you don't acknowledge it.
pessimist, for you maybe..
do you think blaming politician or system or society as a whole will bring civilization.
"Rand De Basanti"
>>>>>>first Anuz, is this numerology or something?
Well freedom of expression, I suppose. (Named that way by parents)
>>>>>>are you agitated with what I said?
my point in referring to MF hussain or salman rushdie was not to get stuck on a particular example, it was simply to tell you, that what MF hussain does has nothing to do with other people.,
if U think he is not making proper use of his freedom of expression or for that matter misusing it, you can simply ignore him. he does not own the goddesses neither does anyone else. mythology and scriptures are not anybody's property., neither MF Hussain's nor yours.
MF hussain was very very __BAD__ example , has nothing to do with entire civilization thing.
>>>>>1. easy to manage or control; well organized or ordered: 2. polite; well-bred; refined
easy to manage or control???? do u live in some sort of utopia or dreaming. ordered, refined does not exist and is far from being civilized.
>>>civ·i·lize :to bring out of a savage, uneducated, or rude state; make civil; elevate in social and private life; enlighten; refine
That was totally unnecessary, everyone knows that.
>>>>>civilized to me means, a situation where in I am free to think and criticize as long as I dont harm anyone, if people have a problem with my criticism they can simply ignore me, rather than trying suppress.
HARM,how will u control it? when and how you can say u harmed somebody or not, what are the limits???
IGNORE, half of the people (that means masses) don't even understand that word and only privileged people know ignoring and all. People react to either of the way.
>>"Rand De Basanti"
come to grounds and talk, that's just a movie and will do no good. and if you feel otherwise, then try doing that.
>>>>>>suppression creates anxiety in other minds n hence the critic ends in gaining attention (which being his prime motive ) punks, also do the same: they color their hair, go bald, wear jewels, tattoo's n stuff, just to draw attention. commenting or telling that they ae being stupid is simply falling for their trap., all they crave for is your attention, simply deprive them of the same.
On punks people will at-max laugh, no one will stop them or even bothers to do that. These people who can afford hair color or other such things are smallest part of civilization(less that 0.1%).
Dude, don't u acknowledge that today even worst of the enemies are living together without killing each other, people are opening up respecting everyones' view. entire conservative society is changing up. Things get better with time. At times people use to have fun when people kill each other in bloody games, today even killing animal is considered brutal. We all are consistently trying to build a better world, that's what is civilization is all about. you can't make best civilization overnight. Its far from perfect, but it does exist and consistently improving. May be my examples are not sufficient to support that but I hope u got the idea.
42.7 % of all statistics are made on the spot
-- conficus..
I m not a utopian.,not even civilized for you maybe.,
I have a humble advice for U., next time I write something or use an analogy., dont take it literally., take it metaphorically or something.,
if I talk of punks, U get literal.,
I use rang de basanti as a sarcastic remark., U take it literally..
>>>>>42.7 % of all statistics are made on the spot
-- conficus..
Totally irrelevant, I am not into any stat-thing, I don't have to prove anything to rope in stats.
>>>>>>I m not a utopian.,not even civilized for you maybe.,
I am not saying you are not civilized, infact you are one of the most civilized ones, but you do not acknowledge that anyone else is.
>>>>I have a humble advice for U., next time I write something or use an analogy., dont take it literally., take it metaphorically or something.,
if I talk of punks, U get literal.,
Well my intention was not to get literal , but to get into what examples are you quoting and what you are generally trying to say?, again that was deviation from entire thing.
>>>>>I use rang de basanti as a sarcastic remark., U take it literally..
sorry boss not used to your-kind of sarcasm, I was taking all very-serious kind of approach and took you for those just-seen-RDB-and-want-to-kill-a-politician kinda fella, but my perception was wrong.
Anyway u are still unconvinced of existence of any form of civilization existing on the face of earth.
The type of culture and society developed by a particular nation or region or in a particular epoch.,
this I believe in, its the history
I have read about n everything.
what I fail to accept is this., that humanity as a race is civilized., there are maybe a very high number of people who are civilized in thought., but not all.
the point I am making is this:
people ( educated ones ) are still superstitious to a very high extent, this is uncivilized to me.
till date a lot of parents are biased towards their sons.
people get personal with everything, they are very agitated n frustrated and simply look out for reasons to fight.
people are so ready to fight or yell or abuse., they simply need reasons.,
people consume so much alcohol, drugs n everything.,
there is gender bias, religious bias., regional bias., bias of literally all kinds possible.,
parents are okay if their sons have gurl frens, but are simply against their daughters being in a relationship.,
love marriages are still opposed.,
there is too much crime.,
people r almost dying to have the third world war.,
there is enough ammunition to kill every human 7times.,
some smart arses have created global warming as a threat., so that humanity is busy n lost with the same and the third world war is avoided.,
the world is not run by governments but companies.,
where are we heading?
civilized.!! no no .. not for me.
i'd wanna die of a free fall...feel it all thru...n spent those last few moment alone...or wid sm1 i wanna...not the hustle bustle of ppl around...at those last moments too?....i'd rather have my being dead affect the world..not the way I died...wud satisfy my ego enuf....
P.S: Irony...your post on 'how would u wanna die' has turned into a massive discussion on 'civilization'....
rony...your post on 'how would u wanna die' has turned into a massive discussion on 'civilization'....
Everything I do has a similar effect...am I being too narcissist?
Well the discussion here is between a guy who likes to test ppls levels of understanding of how the "civilization" works and its "social" consequences and a guy who likes falling into traps
2 puppet:
how so very descriptive on your part?
n 2 entwined:
welcome to the world..
Just following the path of the master....Master of Puppets pulling the Strings....
religiously put, god meant it that way.. !!
@Madman
its an art that am hoping to master
2 puppet:need a teacher?
of course its not a question of need...is it?? why is never the question...its why not
why do u want favours from others??
2 sid:
please start addressing your comments to some1.
@siddhartha
I am not sure..... the context of your question is not clear..... are you hinting at something....??
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